The Twelfth Amendment

The Twelfth Amendment, which is the Amendment that allows for an Electoral College, reads as follows.

“The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;–The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice….”

When it comes to the election of a President, do you support the usage of an Electoral College or do you support a direct popular vote?

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12 responses to “The Twelfth Amendment

  1. I firmly support the popular vote. I think the Electoral College can have a vote, say or input but they should not have the ultimate vote. The 2000 election is a prime example. Here is Al Gore’s popular vote: 50,996,582 and here is Bush: 50,456,062. Bush only won because of the College. They don’t care about the recession because they make a lot of money anyway, Bush put us further in debt and deeper into the recession and making the economy worse. The 12th Amendment should be repealed because the popular vote should be the only vote that matters.

  2. A direct popular vote, although somewhat daunting because I don’t trust the majority of Americans, would represent the people’s views. Although the Electoral College system is a fair one, because whichever party wins in the state wins the electoral votes, (except Maine and Nebraska) people don’t really care if the presidential candidate wins their state. Winning the entire election is a much bigger deal. However, because there is so much controversy with voter fraud, trying to account for every single person’s vote could be one big mess. On the other hand, only about 50% of Americans actually do cast a vote, so even if a direct popular vote were enacted, would it really be accurate? Half of the country would be missing! Perhaps a direct popular vote would inspire people to vote because they may feel their vote now has more significance, rather than just accepting the fate of their state and not contributing to the political process.

    The Electoral College is a necessary component of our national government. It need not remove power from the people. Rather it and the currently existing national election act in many ways as an extension of the system of balancing power between large and small states. The national election gives a voice to every American, therefore giving large states more power. The Electoral College, on the other hand, ensures that the small states have some power.

  3. Luleta Dardovski

    Personally, I agree with the Electoral College and believe in it’s system. When an individual American votes in a presidential election, he or she is actually voting for an elector, who will cast a ballot on their behalf in the election that actually chooses the president. It seems like a run around to get a vote for the president, but this is to make sure that every vote is equally accounted for. Every state depending on a few factors has a number of people in its electoral college whom then go vote to make sure that a vote from New York is equivalent to a vote In Wyoming. Because I don’t see any instances were the popular vote would be a better system, I agree with the electoral vote.

  4. I believe that both systems have it’s pros and cons, but the one I’m in most favor of is the electoral college. The electoral college consists of the house of representatives and the senate from our state that we voted for to represent our vote. The electoral college, I believe, gives people the incentive to get people involved to vote for the people who will vote for our future leader, our laws, and in general our lives.

  5. I believe that the electoral college takes away the true feeling of the right to vote. I do not support the electoral college I believe that they add a false sense of balance to the system. I support the actual popular vote this way people are the ones who vote and maybe they would pay more attention to whom they vote for later.

  6. I’m more in favor for the direct popular vote over the electoral vote. Because I feel that the electoral vote takes away from making your vote count, also when it comes to the Electoral votes it not just two representatives from each state which makes it seem like that the final vote on who’s going to take office for President. Therefore, the direct vote should be the only vote in my opinion.

  7. Madilyn Seyller

    I support the usage of the direct popular vote more so than the electoral vote. This is because I feel that the use of the electoral vote diminishes the quality and the importance of an individual’s vote. With the use of the electoral vote, the ultimate decision is coming from the government, rather than the people.

  8. In my opinion, I am more in favor of the direct popular vote. I feel that the use of the popular vote speaks more to the people. A majority of people vote because they want their voices and say to be heard in the election. The use of the electoral vote takes away from the concept of people directly contributing to the election. The direct popular vote helps the people to understand and feel as an individual, where their time and vote counts in the particular election.

  9. I support the direct popular vote because that’s where my vote is. A lot of people say “What’s the point of voting because your vote doesn’t really matter in all reality.” I think they have a point because the popular vote is only a small percentage of whatever the outcome ends up being. The electoral vote seems to be dominating and in turn makes the people’s vote less important.

  10. Naser Daifallah

    In my own opinion I feel that the direct vote would be better just because we are taking on the whole U.S to decide who will get to be the president and not some core group that decides who wins the election. The electoral vote kind of seems more important than the rest of the votes and it shouldn’t be that way. I support the use of the direct popular vote than electoral vote because I would know that my vote is more meaningful than some electoral vote.

  11. I think a direct vote would be best. I think that the electoral college should be disbanded. Its almost like our vote for president doesn’t even count. I know a lot of people feel that way and thats why some people don’t vote. I think if it was a direct vote, that more people will feel that their vote matters.

  12. I think that the electoral college is a very good system as it gives smaller states a larger say in elections. However, I think that electoral votes should be allowed to be split instead of the “winner take all” system that we have now. I believe if a candidate wins sixty percent of the vote in the state the electoral college representatives should be able to split their votes accordingly in order to come to a more accurate vote tally.

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